Distance per tank

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Hi, was just curious what type of distance you guys are getting per tank. I was getting around 450 kms/tank now i'm getting 300kms/tank at -10C temps and am running wrangler duratracs niw which i know will take away a bit from fuel economy.
 
Around 300 ish miles. Not sure how many km that is.

What's your temp gauge sitting at after it is warmed up? If it isn't at 210 you're running cold and burning excess fuel, which would require a new tstat to fix.
 
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Winter gas will decrease mileage 10-20%. I've ranged from 280-420. All depends on the drive and driver. Too many variables. Explain your drive more? Keep the tach under 2k at all times is a start.
 
Bout 300
 
Mirror said:
Its sitting one tick above the large line between 40 and 100
It should be pointing up around the 100 c. mark.

In miles you were getting 281 miles and now 187 miles.

I think Sparky is right about the t-stat and engine not running hot enough.
 
Mirror said:
I know my tstat needs changing. Engine light says so :D
Thats a good place to start. How long has the CEL been on? Hopefully you have not damaged your CAT. How many miles are you at? Replaced plugs, cleaned throttle body, replaced air filter, etc?

Like others have mentioned, it is hard to compare MPGs. Too many factors, elevation, temperature, driving style, terrain, road conditions, winter gas, tire pressure, tire condition, city/highway ratio, speed, etc. It could go on forever.

This winter I have been getting close to 300 miles per tank. I usually fill up when I am a little less than a quarter tank. If I ran it dry, I would see about 350 miles to a tank. Which averages out to around 16 MPG.
 
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Nope, got a conversion calculator on my phone. Does length, volume, weight, etc.

Now back on track, does it feel sluggish at all? Like the power has reduced with the worse fuel consumption?
 
BlazingTrails said:
Is this on topic? [emoji106]

I get between 320-360 mpt

Depending on how much is on the highway.
Same here...Got 360 (21.3 MPG) a few days ago...That was only bout 40 miles on city streets...180* thermostat :eek:
 
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Mirror said:
I know my tstat needs changing. Engine light says so :D
That's the cause of your poor distance per tank. You're burning tons of extra fuel running cold like that and could kill your cat if you let it go too long. Get the stat fixed and that should take care of it.
 
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Mirror said:
Just found out my gas milleage. 11.95 mpg
That's about what I get during the winter... Usually get 14-15 in the summer. Probably due to me using my remote start during the winter.
 
In similar conditions as you, I get about 500 km on a tank before I start looking for a station on the highway. The light comes on at about 540.

I once did Winnipeg to Moose Jaw on one tank (650 km) but there was a lot of 80 kmh construction zones (and it was bucking a bit for the last kilometer.) Nobody told me there is zero gas stations from the east end of the Regina ring road all the way to Moose Jaw!

In the city in winter, I can get about 350 before the light comes on.

The cause of your poor mileage is most definitely the thermostat. Also change the coolant temp sensor. (They are side-by-side.) That will solve your mileage problems.

There is also a very good chance your cat converter is plugged. It doesn't take long with the modern cats in our engines. They run on very narrow ranges and can get clogged quickly with the amount of excess fuel you have been pumping in. I would watch for signs your highway acceleration is starting to fall off and maybe get the backpressure tested.
 
Also, one more point. The 03 had two different sizes of gas tank. Early production ones had a 70 liter tank, while later ones had the 83 liter tank.

What is the most you have ever put in your tank when bone dry?
 
21.???? Gallons....she was running on fumes. I average about 275-350 depending on driving
 
On a good highway drive to NYC cruising at 65mph, I can get ~500-600 miles on a full tank of 25 gallons.
 
I'm running duratracs

How? My bonneville only got 600-650 kms to a tank. How are you getting 800-940 kms a tank in an suv?

Nvm you have a 95L tank
 
I feel sorry for my Canadian brethren as not only are you pimped on the price of fuel but you are subject to the winter blends. I did my own "study" on the use of Premium over Regular when I had a Coly pickup. I was commuting about 375 miles each way to work on a regular basis. It was a frequent enough trip so I could replicate environmental conditions such as outside air temp, humidity, and road condition. My data concluded that I got 2MPG better with premium fuel over Regular. This was at 65MPH set on cruise with a 2005 4x4 3.5L extended cab with no tonneau cover. I was able to duplicate the results on multiple trips including running Regular fuel and getting worse fuel mileage. The overall savings was only a few bucks per trip. The real "savings", IMHO, is the benefit of running a premium fuel which contains the best additives. Take it all as a grain of salt. My brother did a different study for his engineering degree when he was driving home from college on weekends. He compared a Napa Gold paper filter to a K&N filter. 1999 Silverado V6 regular cab 2WD. He actually got like 1MPG better mileage with the $5 Napa Gold paper filter. Now, in regards to airflow if using the same filter in a souped up and turbocharged 4.3, my brother insisted that the K&N might actually be better. Clearly, it is merely a novelty for the daily driver.
 
Not a K&N fan at all...pretty widely known around here. Below is a copy/paste of some of the reasons....
____________________________________________________________________

There is a lot of marketing hype surrounding certain aftermarket air filters and we wanted to know if the filters could stand up to their claims. Claims of "superior" filtering ability and dirt holding capacity are among some of these claims. Additionally, many filters are claimed to allow for "better" air flow giving you more horsepower.

This claim of better flow giving more horsepower is a debate all its own, but dyno tests run with a paper filter vs. NO FILTER AT ALL have shown NO INCREASE IN POWER OUTPUT. Therefore a filter with "better flow" will not only give you no increase in performance, it will also let in a lot of dirt while doing it.

The following data is provided by Testand Corp. in Rhode Island. Testand makes the $285,000 machines that perform the SAE J726/ISO 5011 air filter test standard. Any air filter that wants to be tested for performance and efficiency uses this test. These tests cost $1,700 per filter when done by an independent laboratory. Testand Corp. was interested in the comparison study and agreed to do the study for us.

Every filter listed was tested in an identical manner according to the SAE/ISO test standard> Here are the results:


In the order of EFFICIENCY (ability to filter dirt) the results are as follows:

FILTER % EFFICIENCY

AC Delco OE 99.93%
Baldwin paper 99.72%
No name pargain paper 99.32%
AFE Pro Guard 7 panel filter 99.23%
WIX/Napa Gold 99.03%
Purolator paper 98.73%
Amsoil, new style 98.63%
UNI 97.93%
K&N 96.80%


FLOW RESTRICTION from best to worst. Remember, 27.7 inches of water = 1 psi. So, 1 inch of water = .036 psi. The worst (AC Delco) at 6.23 in. water and the best (K&N) at 4.54 in. water is a difference of 1.69 in. of water or a "whopping" .0608 psi. Virtually negligible.

In order from least restricive to most:

FILTER RESTRICTION in inches of water

K&N 4.54
Mystery bargain 4.78
AFE Pro Guard 4.99
Purolator 5.05
WIX/Napa Gold 5.06
UNI 5.40
Baldwin 5.71
Amsoil 5.88
AC Delco 6.23


DIRT HOLDING CAPACITY. From best to worst. This is the AMOUNT of test dirt it took to create an ADDITIONAL 10 inches of restriction. At that point the test is terminated. This is an indication of HOW LONG a filter is good before it must be cleaned or replaced.

FILTER Dirt Holding Capacity

AC Delco 573.898 grams
WIX/Napa Gold 447.366 g
Purolator 388.659 g
Baldwin 388.154 g
UNI 374.638 g
Mystery bargain 350.402 g
AFE Pro Guard 7 232.516 g
K&N 211.580 g
Amsoil 196.323 g


TOTAL DIRT PASSING THE FILTER DURING THE TEST. This is how much dirt your engine will take in if you use the filter for the duration that would cause the filter to become "dirty" enough to need replacement or cleaning. The "Dirt Passing The Filter" is the dirt collected by the "POST FILTER" during the SAE/ISO test.

In order from best to worst, the filters performed as follows:

FILTER DIRT IN GRAMS PASSED

AC Delco 0.4g
Baldwin 1.1g
AFE Pro Guard 7 1.8g
Mystery bargain 2.4g
Amsoil 2.7g
WIX/Napa Gold 4.4g
Purolator 5.0g
K&N 6.0g
UNI 7.9g

NOTE: During the test the Purolator was reported to have had a seal failure which gave it higher than expected dirt passing.
 
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The scary part is how all of those brands are just that - a brand name and that their supplier will have differences in the actual manufacturing process and therefore have different results. I've actually had genuine Moog parts in an Autozone Duralast branded box and then a CHICOM made part when ordering later. We can only hope and pray that AC Delco's filter supplier continues to make a quality product that exceeds industry standards.
 
FWIW my old car would get worse gas mileage with higher octane fuel. Anything more than 87 and it just didn't do as well, so it would hit the wallet with a one-two punch.

Never bothered trying anything higher than 87 in my TB as the computer has no idea what to do with it.
 
I have been using AC Delco air & oil filters for many years, and have not had any problems
with them. But, I did notice that the last air filter (AC) I bought was made in Poland!!!

Edit: I do get 20-21 MPG at 70 MPH on the highway.
 
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When asking about the number of miles or kilometers per tank, remember there were 3 different tanks; 18.? gallons, 22 gallons, and 24 or 25 gallons.

On 87 octane gasoline, refined for use in California, with a 22 gallon tank, I have been getting approximately 315–330 miles (507-532 KM) per tank. I'm running Bridgestone Duelers all season.
 
Mirror do you have the V8? My buddy's AWD SS only got like 10-12mpg.

Speed, weight, outside air temp, humidity, road surface condition, etc variances make a huge difference.
 
chipjumper said:
Mirror do you have the V8? My buddy's AWD SS only got like 10-12mpg.

Speed, weight, outside air temp, humidity, road surface condition, etc variances make a huge difference.
I have a 4.2 and get those same numbers around town, long highway jaunts get me 19mpg
 
Oh; city driving will never get you appreciable mpg numbers unless you get and electric or hybrid. Too many acceleration cycles. The easiest, cheapest, and fastest MPG mod with the best results is to be easy on the gas pedal. Nice slow starts. Nice easy acceleration cycles and to think several seconds ahead to try to use momentum as your friend. Read up on the "hypermilers" who get like 25% higher mpg numbers than the EPA.
 
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Mirror said:
70 liter (18 gal) in mine and i still seem to be getting only 11 miles to the gallon after fixing the thermostat
Are you driving more city or highway? Do you idle a lot? Are you traveling mostly flat or are there a lot of hills? At what speed do you typically drive? Do you gas it to get up to speed quickly or do you let it accelerate reasonably? Do you use the cruise control (on flat roads cruise control will save you gas, on hills it typically will use more gas)? Is your gas blended differently in the summer versus winter (many places in the United States add ethanol in the winter and that will lower your gas mileage. More ethanol equates to even lower mileage)? Are you carrying a lot of weight in the car? Do you have accessories on the outside of the car that would dramatically reduce aerodynamics such as a carrier on the roof?

As you can see there are many, many variables. I know most people will think of a few of them, and I know there are more besides maintenance that I did not think of.
 

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